Zealous Sword Hilt - Guild Wars Forums

elLOCOmutha · Aug 11, 2006, 06:46 AM // 06:46

Can someone explain to me what good a zealous hilt is?

1/-1 I mean doesnt it cancel itself out? So you hit faster than your energy normally builds back up, so you gain 1 on each hit.

BowLad21 · Aug 11, 2006, 06:54 AM // 06:54

Zealous is a great mod for swords and axes, mainly because with an attack speed boost (usually a must..), you will gain more energy than you would have with 1 more regen.

Livingston · Aug 11, 2006, 07:02 AM // 07:02

http://www.gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Zealous

-1 energy regen translates to -1 energy every 3 seconds.

DPS for most melee weapons 1.33.

So you gain significantly more energy with a zealous mod. Add attack speed boots and you can easily manage the most energy intensive builds.

It's a great mod.

Livingston

elLOCOmutha · Aug 11, 2006, 07:19 AM // 07:19

I see, so I need something in my skill bar to make me attack faster to make the most of a zealous hilt? This will make me gain energy faster?

Smasher/Devourer · Aug 11, 2006, 08:08 AM // 08:08

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Originally Posted by elLOCOmutha

I see, so I need something in my skill bar to make me attack faster to make the most of a zealous hilt? This will make me gain energy faster?

Yes. After all, if you attack more often, then presumably you'll hit more often, which means you'll gain energy more often.

Zakarr · Aug 11, 2006, 08:15 AM // 08:15

Normal attack speed is enough to gain more energy with zealous than without it if you are using axe or sword and your attacks hit. Skills which increase attack speed will give you even more energy but those skills also cost some energy.

Livingston · Aug 11, 2006, 08:19 AM // 08:19

But you are also attacking faster which is always good, and building more adrenaline, for any adren attacks you may be using.

Livingston

elLOCOmutha · Aug 11, 2006, 09:06 AM // 09:06

It took me awhile to see the benefits of having a 3/1 vamp sword and a zealous 1/-1 sword in my arsenal. Ive been playing with them for awhile now and I like the setup. Switching around takes a second and the benefits are awesome.

Arya Nibelrund · Aug 11, 2006, 10:05 AM // 10:05

Agreed. The only downside of vampiric and zealous weapon is that you have to switch to a normal set when you're not in a fight, and for lazy warriors like mine it's a HUGE issue

Livingston · Aug 11, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15

I still don't like vampiric weapons as it seems to me that I lose more health then I gain, even when using speed boost attacks, and even if it's not actually true. And it also makes degen very scary for me, as it’s one of the biggest weaknesses for warriors in the first place.

Degen + slow = me not happy.

I know I can just switch out in that case, but to me it's a bigger pain than it's worth, so I'll go with furious, zealous, or even barbed first.

Unless I have mending then vampiric is my friend.

Livingston

Numa Pompilius · Aug 11, 2006, 10:40 AM // 10:40

The main point of vampiric isn't to gain health, it's that you do 3 points more damage per hit, armor ignoring. Although if you're using, say, triple chop against tightly packed enemies the healing can become quite significant.

Zealous just rocks. With tiger stance you basically get 4 pips of energy regen as a warrior.

darkMishkin · Aug 11, 2006, 11:00 AM // 11:00

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

With tiger stance you basically get 4 pips of energy regen as a warrior.

With Tiger Stance you can afford to use Tiger Stance!

Weapon switching might take effort but it makes such a difference. Earlier today I was playing Gyala Hatchery, using a Cold Sword vs warriors and a Vampiric Vs pesky rangers, you see such a massive improvement in the numbers.

Riken Chrono · Aug 11, 2006, 03:12 PM // 15:12

think of it this way though, i use flurry because i can keep it up all the time but does it really make sense to keep spamming it? it costs 5 energy and it looks like after 1 flurry ends i barely get the energy i used to use flurry.

eternal pho · Aug 11, 2006, 03:44 PM // 15:44

But remember to switch weapons after battle if you're low on energy.

milias · Aug 11, 2006, 05:04 PM // 17:04

I use Zealous and Defense mods on my sword. I almost never run out of energy, unless of course, I run into a mob of E-Denial mesmers

Aug 11, 2006, 06:46 AM // 06:46	#1
elLOCOmutha Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ascalon City, Tyria Guild: Free Agent Profession: W/	Zealous Sword Hilt Can someone explain to me what good a zealous hilt is? 1/-1 I mean doesnt it cancel itself out? So you hit faster than your energy normally builds back up, so you gain 1 on each hit.

Aug 11, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15	#10
Livingston Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Edge of the World Guild: [L] [GET]	I still don't like vampiric weapons as it seems to me that I lose more health then I gain, even when using speed boost attacks, and even if it's not actually true. And it also makes degen very scary for me, as it’s one of the biggest weaknesses for warriors in the first place. Degen + slow = me not happy. I know I can just switch out in that case, but to me it's a bigger pain than it's worth, so I'll go with furious, zealous, or even barbed first. Unless I have mending then vampiric is my friend. Livingston Last edited by Livingston; Aug 11, 2006 at 10:17 AM // 10:17..

Aug 11, 2006, 06:54 AM // 06:54	#2
BowLad21 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006	Zealous is a great mod for swords and axes, mainly because with an attack speed boost (usually a must..), you will gain more energy than you would have with 1 more regen.

Aug 11, 2006, 07:02 AM // 07:02	#3
Livingston Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Edge of the World Guild: [L] [GET]	http://www.gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Zealous -1 energy regen translates to -1 energy every 3 seconds. DPS for most melee weapons 1.33. So you gain significantly more energy with a zealous mod. Add attack speed boots and you can easily manage the most energy intensive builds. It's a great mod. Livingston

Aug 11, 2006, 07:19 AM // 07:19	#4
elLOCOmutha Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ascalon City, Tyria Guild: Free Agent Profession: W/	I see, so I need something in my skill bar to make me attack faster to make the most of a zealous hilt? This will make me gain energy faster?

Aug 11, 2006, 08:15 AM // 08:15	#6
Zakarr Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland	Normal attack speed is enough to gain more energy with zealous than without it if you are using axe or sword and your attacks hit. Skills which increase attack speed will give you even more energy but those skills also cost some energy.

Aug 11, 2006, 08:19 AM // 08:19	#7
Livingston Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Edge of the World Guild: [L] [GET]	But you are also attacking faster which is always good, and building more adrenaline, for any adren attacks you may be using. Livingston

Aug 11, 2006, 09:06 AM // 09:06	#8
elLOCOmutha Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ascalon City, Tyria Guild: Free Agent Profession: W/	It took me awhile to see the benefits of having a 3/1 vamp sword and a zealous 1/-1 sword in my arsenal. Ive been playing with them for awhile now and I like the setup. Switching around takes a second and the benefits are awesome.

Aug 11, 2006, 10:05 AM // 10:05	#9
Arya Nibelrund McLovin!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Farming Zaishen [keYs] Profession: Mo/	Agreed. The only downside of vampiric and zealous weapon is that you have to switch to a normal set when you're not in a fight, and for lazy warriors like mine it's a HUGE issue

Aug 11, 2006, 10:40 AM // 10:40	#11
Numa Pompilius Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: At an Insit.. Intis... a house. Guild: Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF] Profession: W/Me	The main point of vampiric isn't to gain health, it's that you do 3 points more damage per hit, armor ignoring. Although if you're using, say, triple chop against tightly packed enemies the healing can become quite significant. Zealous just rocks. With tiger stance you basically get 4 pips of energy regen as a warrior.

Aug 11, 2006, 03:12 PM // 15:12	#13
Riken Chrono Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: around the corner and up the block Guild: Hero	think of it this way though, i use flurry because i can keep it up all the time but does it really make sense to keep spamming it? it costs 5 energy and it looks like after 1 flurry ends i barely get the energy i used to use flurry.

Aug 11, 2006, 03:44 PM // 15:44	#14
eternal pho Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: The Licious Fame Farmers {TLG} Profession: W/E	But remember to switch weapons after battle if you're low on energy.

Aug 11, 2006, 05:04 PM // 17:04	#15
milias Grotto Attendant Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Defected back to America Profession: Me/E	I use Zealous and Defense mods on my sword. I almost never run out of energy, unless of course, I run into a mob of E-Denial mesmers